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« on: November 28, 2011, 07:35:56 pm » |
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Will take place at the 2x Hot VW's Drag Days and the Bug-In. Will be a 1/8 mile only and yes you have to run a Nankang 165 tire! Carb only, turbo, NOS, FI is all good to run! You can visit www.165Class.com for more info! Will try to give up dates! A.J  |
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 12:40:36 am » |
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Wow, that's pretty cool! Seems like a good way to get some more guys out at the track. Tire size is always a great equalizer.
I know the number one question to be asked, "Can you get Nankang to sponsor the class?"
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 01:14:06 am » |
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I sure hope they (me to) like it! Working on a tire sponsor! Just post up the rules and some of the racers/members profile's up on the site. Check out the members page on the www.165class.com |
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 02:37:11 pm » |
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doesnt say anything about dual rear wheels ,)
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 06:51:27 pm » |
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doesnt say anything about dual rear wheels ,)
LOL.. i like the way you think. push the limits and throw more HP to the ground... ya buddy. then again. remember it says rules can change before, during, and after the event. You'd get there and then they'd change the rules on you. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 07:37:09 pm » |
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that seems to be a very PRA way to look at things, ha!
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A.J.Sims
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 08:47:41 pm » |
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Just got the good news. Empi will donate 6x of the 165 class tires for us to give away.
We will give 1xpair away at each of the Drag Days and the Bug-In.
Thank you Empi, and thank you Bud (he works at Empi!)
So do we offer them to the biggest burn out, or the winner?
From the rules:
First off this class is built for the racers by the racers. If its not talked about in the rules then ask.
The reason for the tire in this class is not for you to find a way to cheat with it, but to make you as the
driver, work around it.
This is going to be a no tolerance class. So we stress to you to play with in the rules 100% of the time.
There is no "Gray Area". If your close to braking a rule then please make the change.
Don't make us remove you from the class.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 09:12:14 pm » |
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Wow way to Go. This is gunna be interesting. How many passes you figure a set of tires will last, maybe 6 runs. I am curious why not allow spools or LSD to make it a little safer. You can bet I will be watching this class.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 10:51:01 am » |
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almost makes me wish i lived in Anaheim still. All these good races starting to happen out there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 03:19:52 pm » |
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I think this will be a great class for the spectators to watch as well! It does take a bit of skill to finesse a skinny tire/high hp pass. We'll see lots of tire spin through the gears.
And for the racers, this means their stuff lasts longer. The tire spin will be easier on parts.
I remember making a 12.97 pass on regular 205 radials and how sktechy it got on the top end of the track (glad it will be only 1/8 mile). I remember I had to ease into the throttle and ride the clutch to launch the car without putting the radials up in smoke.
This is creative and should be fun to see/participate.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 12:47:52 pm » |
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Is another class really necessary? It seems like if guys with 165s want to go racing, they can always go bracket racing, or at least it's an option. I have to admit I am curious to see the numbers of cars out running, and what numbers they'll turn out, but it just seems there's plenty of existing classes out there already.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 01:20:59 pm » |
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Is another class really necessary? It seems like if guys with 165s want to go racing, they can always go bracket racing, or at least it's an option. I have to admit I am curious to see the numbers of cars out running, and what numbers they'll turn out, but it just seems there's plenty of existing classes out there already.
Some of us don't want to bracket race. My boy will be running this class and U/S next year. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 03:23:32 pm » |
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I guess I can respect that, but it seems like a spec tire class is going to be a huge limiting factor; but I suppose that's likely the idea, lol.
I could be dead wrong in thinking so, but it seems like the racing world may get super watered down with more super specific classes; I know some question the safety factor with such a skinny tire. Heads up racing and affordability are kind of a paradox, in my opinion, as eventually it always gets expensive, irregardless of original intent.
Doesn't mean people should participate, though; sucks what happened to DRKC; people pointed fingers at one particular car for killing the class, as I recall, which I thought was lame.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 02:49:29 am » |
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Some of us don't want to bracket race. My boy will be running this class and U/S next year.
Yeah, the more heads up classes, the better! |
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 01:55:35 am » |
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Some of the members cars and combos for the class! A.J.Sims 1966 FastBack 2387cc Turbo  Benjamin Berniklau 1966 Bug 2442cc Turbo  Matt Becker 1966 Bug 2276cc 48mm IDA  Dan Vanzile 1967 Bug 2165cc 48mm IDA  John Tiennes 1963 Bug 2026cc Turbo No pick. Robert Kong 1967 Bug 2442cc 52mm IDA No pick. Jason Reynolds 1954 Bug 2276cc 48mm IDA  Harold Hillhouse 1956 Bug 2919cc Turbo  Jacob Garza 59 Bug 2332cc Turbo  John Blunt 1967 Bug 1915cc Turbo  Eric Outland (E-Rock) 1966 Bug (chop top) 2110cc Turbo  Nicolas Nieto (Turbo Nick) 1973 Bug 1915cc Turbo  Paul Sunarky 1968 Bug 1915cc Turbo With NOS  |
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2012, 11:33:15 am » |
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Should be fun to see these high-hp cars skate all the way down the track!
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2012, 10:16:04 am » |
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Should be fun to see these high-hp cars skate all the way down the track!
Some of the faster cars should be going 90+ mph still putting down a lot of power at the big end on skinny/hard/generic tires. A HANs device should be mandatory in this class. Whats next, a heads up class for cars with loose lug nuts? |
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2012, 10:01:36 am » |
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Some of the faster cars should be going 90+ mph still putting down a lot of power at the big end on skinny/hard/generic tires. A HANs device should be mandatory in this class.
Whats next, a heads up class for cars with loose lug nuts?
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 02:12:50 am » |
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I have to giggle at some of those combos posted........ I liken this to off road dirt bike riding. The big bore 500cc two strokes in the tight woods single track. More is not better. Tight woods we use 200-250cc two strokes (I'm not a four stroke guy). Too much HP can be a very bad thing. I'm thinking a lower hp motor may be the way to go. If you can't get it hooked up, what good is all that powa?!  |
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 05:53:54 pm » |
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I have to giggle at some of those combos posted........ I liken this to off road dirt bike riding. The big bore 500cc two strokes in the tight woods single track. More is not better. Tight woods we use 200-250cc two strokes (I'm not a four stroke guy). Too much HP can be a very bad thing. I'm thinking a lower hp motor may be the way to go. If you can't get it hooked up, what good is all that powa?! Every now and again I can see implementing new ideas to try and reinvigorate the status quo... kinda like the Kadron fad a few years back, but unfortunately it was pretty short lived. |
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 10:35:09 pm » |
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I have to giggle at some of those combos posted........ I liken this to off road dirt bike riding. The big bore 500cc two strokes in the tight woods single track. More is not better. Tight woods we use 200-250cc two strokes (I'm not a four stroke guy). Too much HP can be a very bad thing. I'm thinking a lower hp motor may be the way to go. If you can't get it hooked up, what good is all that powa?! this is why we are using a turbo motor. we will start off with low boost and turn it up until the tires cry. |
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2012, 01:19:15 am » |
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2012, 09:53:43 am » |
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you just found the loop hole!
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2012, 04:14:45 pm » |
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this is why we are using a turbo motor. we will start off with low boost and turn it up until the tires cry.
Yeah, if it's a full 1/4 mile, it seems like turbo cars (and maybe staged nitrous systems) will have a big advantage. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 05:23:07 pm » |
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1/8th mile SMOKE SHOW.
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 05:29:25 pm » |
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will be interesting to see what kind of ABUSE that rubber can HANDLE. NICE .
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2012, 09:44:18 pm » |
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Should be fun to see these high-hp cars skate all the way down the track!
MORE LIKE A HAND FULL GOING DOWN THE TRACK!!! |
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 05:37:02 am » |
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Can't wait to see this race in March!
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 12:02:56 pm » |
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I hope there's video, I'm sure there will be. If I was closer, I'd try it.
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2012, 08:27:44 am » |
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Hey -- It's like this -- the smart racer will be the one that wins, not necessarily the fastest car. Guys, I'm gonna pull out of the racing for this series this year. Being it is the year of my 60th Birthday, The Wife is letting me knock off a lot of my bucket list item this year. March we'll be doing 2 weeks in Europe, April, my Daughter has bought me some seat time 12 laps in a NASCAR at California Speedway. And for September I'm taking the Oval to the salt for an attempt at the 150mph club. So setting the car up for Bonneville will be the priority for this year, that and saving my pennies for the gas to get there.  |
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« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2012, 12:11:13 am » |
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Well that sounds like a good idea Harold. At your age you should think about that stuff!  One of the updates made to the rules! 12. No Spools, ZF Diffs and/or Quaife diffs or Poor Mans Posi. Only stock "non welded" diff, Beef-a-diff or Super Diff are allowed. This was one of the rules that was asked about a few times. I just received the tire test kit. This kit is used to check tires if they have been treated or have a altered surface. One of the things we have talked about is jacking "up" one side of the members race car to check for open diffs. It seams people are over looking the rules and trying to find ways to bend them, all i can say is, think about your combo, what it will take to make your car go down the track the fastest with what has been placed in front of you! |
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2012, 12:42:03 am » |
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I see no rules safety related. What are the safety rules, and or requirements based on the class. Do the rules for safety changed based on ET, or MPH?
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