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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2011, 10:14:12 pm » |
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2011, 01:26:39 am » |
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Megasquirt is a DIY system as far as they send you the circuit board and u build it. I can't solder worth a chit so I didn't look at it any further.
Call CB up -- the girls that answer the phone are really good and if they aren't doing the job ask for Pat Downs -- he is the ace -- their FI is self tuning -- the more you drive it the better it runs -- Have heard good things about it on NA cars, don't know of any turbo cars it is on personally. The hideaway system is what I patterned my system after
I purchased my Megasquirt ECU assembled from DIY Autotune the only thing I need to do is a couple mods to it and you can have them do that for you if your not good at soldering. I spent about 1,100 for everything but the fuel delivery system and injectors. This even included a diagnostic tester to simulate a running engine so I can run the Megasquirt ECU on the bench to test it watching it on the laptop. No other company has more help to get you up and running, check out the forums there is ten times the info as any other ECU brand. You can buy into some big name and pay three times as much for their setup and get ten percent of the help but that just doesn't make any since to me. Sent from my iPad |
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2011, 10:12:46 am » |
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I purchased my Megasquirt ECU assembled from DIY Autotune the only thing I need to do is a couple mods to it and you can have them do that for you if your not good at soldering.
I spent about 1,100 for everything but the fuel delivery system and injectors. This even included a diagnostic tester to simulate a running engine so I can run the Megasquirt ECU on the bench to test it watching it on the laptop.
No other company has more help to get you up and running, check out the forums there is ten times the info as any other ECU brand. You can buy into some big name and pay three times as much for their setup and get ten percent of the help but that just doesn't make any since to me.
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at 1800 complete the quicktune is a good option... |
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Chip Birks
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2011, 10:22:12 pm » |
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Quick tune is good if you like it simple. Some of us can't leave well enough alone. Using my Megasquirt I have tons of features that are all run by the one box: Coil on plug, flex fuel, very programable boost control, shift lights, 3 step rev limiter, 2 fans controlled, as well as a water pump, monitoring of oil temp, intake air temp, and pre intercooler air temp and water temp, as well as constant barometric pressure monitoring(I can drive up big hills without having to reset the computer), SD card or laptop datalogging of every sensor and event that the system is doing. If you want features and are willing to do a little DIY, Megasquirt is a Great setup. It's not for everyone though.
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2011, 11:32:58 pm » |
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I agree, I think MS is a great setup for folks that want total adjustability and control... some folks don't, and some folks are *dangerous* with that much control!  I was originally going to go MS, then I bought the quicktune when they released it... at the time I had very little time on my hands and the attractiveness of a complete system with very little fabrication on my part was more than I could resist... back then, it was much more expensive than it is now, and I still feel I got a good deal for what it is... one of these days I'll actually run it...(EFI and turbo) |
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BeetleBug
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2011, 01:49:44 pm » |
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All Features mentioned under are basics and if you ask me a minimum when you first decide to go EFI. And going EFI without also controlling the ignition = ECU, is like drinking a good wine in a water glas. Quick tune is good if you like it simple. Some of us can't leave well enough alone. Using my Megasquirt I have tons of features that are all run by the one box: Coil on plug, flex fuel, very programable boost control, shift lights, 3 step rev limiter, 2 fans controlled, as well as a water pump, monitoring of oil temp, intake air temp, and pre intercooler air temp and water temp, as well as constant barometric pressure monitoring(I can drive up big hills without having to reset the computer), SD card or laptop datalogging of every sensor and event that the system is doing. If you want features and are willing to do a little DIY, Megasquirt is a Great setup. It's not for everyone though.
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Chip Birks
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2011, 11:21:45 pm » |
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All Features mentioned under are basics and if you ask me a minimum when you first decide to go EFI. And going EFI without also controlling the ignition = ECU, is like drinking a good wine in a water glas.
Oh mine definitely controls the ignition. Sorry that I didn't mention that... |
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2011, 11:31:25 am » |
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Deciding on injection systems is like asking youself how bad you want to wrack your brain or how many bells you want to be able to ring.... Most of the set ups are pretty close to the same and some are far beyond that.... MS has a huge forum but others do also..
I have a Redline computer but I get any info I want from 043EFI Motorgeek forum... It is a great forum with any info you would ever need to tune... If you cant get it there you can get right with lance on the Pantera Forum on EFI101...
It is all about the $$$ or time you want to put into tuning or FINE tuning... Bells and wistles are cool but sometime can be overwelming.... Drivability with EFI on a high strung turbo motor is what I love...
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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2011, 04:32:57 pm » |
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After playing/fighting with my wiring for all this chit for the past couple of weeks -- I say go carb -- not sidedraft either
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2011, 08:26:18 pm » |
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After playing/fighting with my wiring for all this chit for the past couple of weeks -- I say go carb -- not sidedraft either
Thats a mess man... I like my plug and play... Play hard too.... |
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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2011, 01:24:38 am » |
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After playing/fighting with my wiring for all this chit for the past couple of weeks -- I say go carb -- not sidedraft either
Half of those wires on your Tec-GT harness will be rolled into a bundle, zip-tied together, and stored under the back seat as they are for GPIO's, ignition and injector channels you are not going to be using. |
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Thanks Rocky Jennings, DRD, and Pauter -Stripped66
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« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2011, 09:44:10 am » |
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After playing/fighting with my wiring for all this chit for the past couple of weeks -- I say go carb -- not sidedraft either
Hahaha, thumbs up to that! |
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« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2011, 11:03:20 am » |
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2011, 02:42:43 am » |
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All Features mentioned under are basics and if you ask me a minimum when you first decide to go EFI. And going EFI without also controlling the ignition = ECU, is like drinking a good wine in a water glass.
Hmmm.... I drink wine directly from the bottle  . Perhaps I need to stick to the ARPM / Hilborn rotary mechanical fuel injection and a magneto?  |
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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2011, 11:22:51 am » |
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Hmmm.... I drink wine directly from the bottle . Perhaps I need to stick to the ARPM / Hilborn rotary mechanical fuel injection and a magneto? Engines don't run on opinions, so just run what you've got and run it hard. |
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Thanks Rocky Jennings, DRD, and Pauter -Stripped66
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« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2011, 02:27:23 pm » |
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Engines don't run on opinions, so just run what you've got and run it hard.
truth be said..... It does get old hearing about what doesn't work...... It's much more fun hearing about what did work... |
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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2011, 06:07:08 am » |
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Quick tune is good if you like it simple. Some of us can't leave well enough alone. Using my Megasquirt I have tons of features that are all run by the one box: Coil on plug, flex fuel, very programable boost control, shift lights, 3 step rev limiter, 2 fans controlled, as well as a water pump, monitoring of oil temp, intake air temp, and pre intercooler air temp and water temp, as well as constant barometric pressure monitoring(I can drive up big hills without having to reset the computer), SD card or laptop datalogging of every sensor and event that the system is doing. If you want features and are willing to do a little DIY, Megasquirt is a Great setup. It's not for everyone though.
How much of that stuff does the MSII do? I have a complete turbo EFI setup that I bought from an add someone had on here, it uses a Halltech and is set up for a big engine. I've started collecting parts for a second set with stock Mexican EFI hardware to put on a small NA engine and play with to get the feel of it before stepping up to turbo 2110. I've bought a EDIS kit with crank trigger for the ignition, and I'm looking at going with the preassembled MSII for about $400. If I get used to it and like it, I may just run the turbo with the MS/EDIS combo and different injectors/hardware, but I'm hoping it's flexible enough to get the job done. I don't need it to run a whole lot of sensors or controls, just the basics to keep the engine happy. Main reason I want to go with EFI is to keep the engine happy running anywhere from sea level to 4000', and 20 degree winters on the mountain to 100 degree afternoons in Bakersfield. (and if gas prices keep climbing, I may try to dial it in to work on a high mpg 40 horse...anyone ever cut a Mexican end casting in half?) |
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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2011, 10:44:51 am » |
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MS2extra will do most of it. MS3 is just easier to do it because of the MS3x optional expander card. MS3 can do way more than what I listed, MS2 is very capable as well. I ran MS2 in my bug for a year, before my cam went flat and I pulled it off the road to redo the motor and and induction. I kinda don't really recommend the Mexican parts for anything really big. I had that stuff on a 2054 and I kind of feel like it choked it down pretty significantly. I have since stepped up to a completely custom built setup and think that it should way outflow the Mexican parts. MS is completely adaptable to almost any platform, and will pretty much do anything you will ask of it. (this is why people are scared of it, it is too universal for some folks)   |
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« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2011, 05:32:29 pm » |
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Thanks for the info. Will the MSII control boost? I like the idea that I can tailor it to whatever I need it for. I think that with the amount of people using it and posting results on the net, I shouldn't have too much trouble getting it dialed in.
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Chip Birks
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« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2011, 03:30:42 pm » |
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You bet it can! I bought a boost control solenoid from diyautotune.com. Lots of people have had good success using it.
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madoski
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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2011, 04:50:13 am » |
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Sounds good. Someday I'll run out of parts to buy and I'll have to actually find time to start putting my car together!
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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2011, 12:35:26 pm » |
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Sounds good. Someday I'll run out of parts to buy and I'll have to actually find time to start putting my car together!
Thats the two of us! |
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