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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 02:56:16 am » |
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I feel for him !ever heard of the labor board?
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 03:23:45 am » |
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Watch the Nation of Aztlan clip. Yes, those speakers hold office in the US goverment!   I want to see media coverage of Native Americans upset because people born in central Mexico here in the US illegaly claim that the land they are on belongs to them. Several weeks ago the news showed a protest in Wyoming and several people were shouting "this land belongs to us". I highly doubt that any Mexicans ever occupied Wyoming before the French did. We got that from France right? LOL you know what I mean Yes some Mexicans were forced out of newly claimed land after the Spanish-American War but that dosent mean that we need to give it back to them now. Giving every "African American" a mule now because of slavery dosent make much sense either. I'm not a racist. I've worked with lots of honest hard working legal imigrants. I've also worked with a lot of dishonest theives that have entered this country illegaly. I dont buy into the hard working illegal imigrant crap. |
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2006, 03:36:45 am » |
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Guys like that contractor (who fired the guy in the video) all need to be sent to Mexican prisons along with the rest of the criminals who cross the border to commit their crimes up here.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2006, 04:37:49 am » |
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On dial-up, that took me about 2.8 hours to listen to-- but it was worth it. That dude has some VERY strong points.......too bad our elected "leaders" dont see things more like him.
The word "racism" needs to be eradicated from the English language. Im friggin' tired of listening to damn near anyone who doesnt get things their way cry RACISM. Pretty soon, our attitude needs to shift from defending ourselves to just saying, "Yeah, so what. Dont like it? Get lost." Its never going to stop. In fact, with the help of you-know-who political instigators pushing the racism propaganda, its only serves to empower these race-baiting crybabies. This country was built from the ground up from immigrants from many nations, dammit. If somehow my ancestry being white-skinned is supposed to make me feel ashamed or sympathetic, NO FRIGGIN WAY!! Everyone in this country has the right to be proud of their heritage, unless that heritage comes with white skin? Whatever. Im Norweigian, white skinned, and damn proud of it. If my being proud makes me an instant racist, and somehow takes away my right to demand whats honest and just and right in this country, well, then you're a complete idiot, I dont care if you're purple with pink dots. Hey, know what? Canadians have white skin too. And as soon as they start pulling this border-jumping, law-breaking, job-stealing, benefit-mooching crap that the illegal Mexicans are pulling right now by the millions, then Ill be all over them too.
Gimme a friggin break.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2006, 05:45:14 pm » |
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The word "racism" needs to be eradicated from the English language. Im friggin' tired of listening to damn near anyone who doesnt get things their way cry RACISM.
the fact that some people "cry racism" when it does not exist does not mean that it categorically does not exist! i'd agree we could eradicate it, if it didn't exist anymore. no one said you couldn't be proud to be white. but when you're proud of being white and that *making you better* than others, that's racist. now i'm NOT saying you do that, i have no idea what you're like... but that in my mind is the difference between pride and racism. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2006, 06:34:40 pm » |
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I have worked in Construction my Entire Adult life here in San Diego {30 years}and have winessed , first hand the importing of Cheap Mexican Labor by the Greedy contractors.The Construction Industry in California has been decimated. Our Quality of life is being diminished to Third World Standards while this countries Politicians are lining thier pockets. Yes , I am WHITE and that automatically qualifies as a "Racist".
So to answer you,r question, NO I do NOT believe that we are done Talking about Illegal Imigration.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2006, 11:33:32 pm » |
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no one said you couldn't be proud to be white. I've seen Mexican's with Brown Pride tattoo's , now if I got a White Pride tattoo , I would bet You and other's that don't know me would think I was a Racist !!! The worst thing you can be in this country is a Adult White Male , we get the blame for everything . Yes , I am WHITE and that automatically qualifies as a "Racist".
You are so right and that's the sad thing , I know you guys don't know me , but let me clue you in . I'm 38 , White , Going through a Divorce , 2 Daughters , Work in Construction , I'm a hard worker that has to compete with Illegal Aliens for a damn paycheck !!! I always here how HARD the Illegal Aliens work , for so little pay , B*LLSH*T , I have PERSONALLY (have you) had to work with Illegal Aliens and they are just like any other Race of people , some work hard , some don't , BUT , when I have to tell them to kick in the A$$ , I get told I'm a Racist and don't like Mexi's (tell that to my cousin's that are Half Mexican or my Sister's Fiance) Inspector's Right , The Contractors and Politicians are getting rich while OUR qaulity of life is getting trashed , I'm just glad the guy I work for is Honest , when He finds out someones Illegal , they are GONE !!!!!!!!!! I'M NOT A RACIST , I'M AMERICAN |
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2006, 12:18:53 am » |
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so here is another q for you guys -- how much of the demand for illegals do you think is from ppl who know what's up, but turn a willing blind eye? like, how many home buyers/owners who have renovations done know, but don't care, that illegals are on the job?
my former boss is up in arms about illegals, when he knows damn well they built his McMansion, and there's no way he could have afforded it otherwise.
is there a lot of that going around? my impression is most ppl don't know, don't want to know, and wouldn't care even if they did know (but only when it applied to *their* house).
DHeath, you have a point about the tattoo. I've got to think about that one a bit.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2006, 02:32:42 am » |
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T-shirt slogan idea from Glen Beck: "Racist Hatemongering Conservative"...  Heard it on the way to work this morning, I think I might have to get one if he actually had them made. I still think Savage rules, but Glen's growing on me. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2006, 04:45:22 am » |
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I've seen Mexican's with Brown Pride tattoo's , now if I got a White Pride tattoo , I would bet You and other's that don't know me would think I was a Racist !!!
The worst thing you can be in this country is a Adult White Male , we get the blame for everything .
Another fantastic post. Sinikl, you are right--- there is a difference between pride and racism............except when it comes to white people. If you're Mexican, you can have pride. If you're Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, or anyone else NON-white, then its perfectly ok to be proud. But the term "white pride" has been attached to "white power", so there ya go-- white people who are "proud" are automatically "racist". And like it or not, admit it or not, acknowledge it or not, we have a whole gaggle of screaming Libs to thank for condoning and instigating the racism issue beyond sense. (Please, by all means, feel free to argue that fact too.) Im not saying NO white people are racist, because there are plenty. But there are just as many ultra-racist Blacks and Mexicans. Yes, you read that correctly..... believe it or not, the term "racist" does NOT mean "white person". And nobody said we cant be proud to be white? Do you live on this planet? Its friggin' EVERYWHERE! |
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2006, 11:04:16 am » |
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Im not saying NO white people are racist, because there are plenty. But there are just as many ultra-racist Blacks and Mexicans.
well then your original post -- racism should be eradicated from the language -- is a dumb thing to say. let's just pretend it doesn't exist, even tho you admit it exists? weird. and *i* never said anything about "only white people can be racist". OF COURSE blacks and mexicans can be racist. don't put words in my mouth. heck, mexicans and blacks being racist against one another is HUGE down here. And nobody said we cant be proud to be white? Do you live on this planet? Its friggin' EVERYWHERE!
so going to norwegian days (if there even is such a thing) or a german oktoberfest or polish street festival isn't "white pride?" you can't do that, right? people call you racist if you're like "i'm proud to be norwegian?" not buying it. show me an example of you trying to be proud to be white, and being told you're a racist. seriously. a real example. not just "it's everywhere." a concrete example. now if you say "hell yeah, whaaaaht praaahde buddy, sure glad ah ain't a daim mex'cun" ... then yeah, ppl are going to give you sh*t. you probably deserve it. But the term "white pride" has been attached to "white power", so there ya go-- white people who are "proud" are automatically "racist".
i buy the first part of that statement. that's the problem w/ the term "white pride," is that it's been linked to white power, which then evokes all of america's checkered racial past, blah blah blah, suddenly you're thinking of racist skins and klansmen... it's pretty evocative, and it's all because of that linkage. i don't think there's been a similar linkage between "brown pride" and "beating the crap outta white folks," that could come to mind, but maybe i'm wrong. "black pride" could, maybe, if you think about the black panthers and all that exclusionary, blacks-are-better-not-equal-to rhetoric, for sure. i do not buy the second part. i don't think everyone who's proud to be white is racist. i think tho, that you have to pick your terms better if "you live on this planet." if you KNOW "white pride" is a charged term (possibly unfairly, see above) then WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT, unless you wanted to piss someone off? there's no other way to articulate "i'm proud of my heritage" than saying white pride? |
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2006, 06:18:28 pm » |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIW-BZ8oLrk&search=Nation%20of%20AztlanThis is the clip I was talking about. "Words do not describe heavily enough the pain in my heart. How in the hell can these treasonous Mexican politicians such as Fabian Nunez, Joe Baca, Antonio Villaraigosa, and Art Torres hold office in the United States. If anyone that was caucasian made statements anywhere close to the outright hatred these parasites spewed every media outlet in this conquered nation would be playing and replaying them by the minute, and would be run out of office and their reputation destroyed. Yet, they can proclaim the United States to be Aztlan with no repercussions. And call for the outright destruction of caucasins and not have a single qualm about it. My attitude to the invasion has totally changed, this is no less then a proclamation of war as I'm concerned. Am I wrong?"
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2006, 02:35:05 pm » |
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I think it's funny that with freedom of speech that the liberals use up in everyway they can, conservitives are called right wingers when they say anything.... As far as racist people go, they are pretty blind..... There is plenty of trash in all races.... What does get me is, "We were slaves"..... Bla Bla Bla..... "Hey buddy, I'm Irish and Indian"..... "Do you want to talk about Slavery and being treated wrong".... As far as the imagration goes, If you're not legal then you are "NOT LEGAL".... Why should I have any pitty on them?? "Maybe you could become a bond slave and earn your way like it use to be".... How do you think that would go over..... Prolly like a Turd in a punch bowl.....
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 07:54:05 pm » |
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well then your original post -- racism should be eradicated from the language -- is a dumb thing to say. let's just pretend it doesn't exist, even tho you admit it exists? weird.
In that context, yeah, I suppose that seems kinda dumb. But what I meant was, the term "racism" should not be allowed as a defense or an accusation, because it only really applies about .05% of the time. The very term "racism", ironically, is racist--- and almost exclusively against whites. If a Mexican decides to cry racism because he didnt get his way on a certain legal issue, then he is going to feel victimized by whites for whatever reason he has cooked up to satisfy himself. If he feels victimized by whites, obviously a bad opinion and anger is going to follow. So we are accused of being racist against him when actually, it is HE who has has the problem with US, and only uses the guise of the reverse to forward his cause. So whos the racist? and *i* never said anything about "only white people can be racist". OF COURSE blacks and mexicans can be racist. don't put words in my mouth. I didnt mean to put words in your mouth, that all just kinda ran together. so going to norwegian days (if there even is such a thing) or a german oktoberfest or polish street festival isn't "white pride?" you can't do that, right? people call you racist if you're like "i'm proud to be norwegian?" not buying it. show me an example of you trying to be proud to be white, and being told you're a racist. seriously. a real example. not just "it's everywhere." a concrete example. Saying "Im proud to be Norweigian" does not carry the same connotation as saying "Im proud to white". Key word is 'white'. Its never happened to me personally in the blatent form you request, but the sentiment is obvious. If you live in this country, you are already aware of it. I can site examples if you'd like, such as schools and courtrooms across the nation preaching this very idea, but I hope its not completely necessary? i do not buy the second part. i don't think everyone who's proud to be white is racist. i think tho, that you have to pick your terms better if "you live on this planet." if you KNOW "white pride" is a charged term (possibly unfairly, see above) then WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT, unless you wanted to piss someone off? there's no other way to articulate "i'm proud of my heritage" than saying white pride?
I agree, if you say "White Pride", you're probably asking for trouble. But why? Why is "Black Pride" and "Brown Pride" perfectly ok while "White Pride" is socially unacceptable? I believe its because whites are typically looked at as the racists, while all others are the victims. Im not saying this is YOUR fault, but it is certainly worsened by the Liberal party everytime they go to bat and stand up to "erradicate racism"--- because most of the time, the supposed "racism" isnt really racism at all, its just someone else not getting their way and racism comes in as the scapegoat. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2006, 08:22:21 pm » |
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Here is the base of all....... "Legal"?? or...... "Illegal"??
Pretty much should be the end of it..... Why do we argue over something SO SIMPLE..... If you do Illegal things, you pay the piper..... People do harmless Illegal things all the time and do prison time.... These guys have a certain amount of time to get thier $h!t together..... If they can't, they need to take themselves back to where they came from.... If they had made a family here then, that is there own falt.... They can take them with them..... IF I have a bunch of kids and happen to be doing Illegal things do you think the govenment is gonna pardon me and let it slide..... I DON'T THINK SO!!! I'll be behind bars.... My children will be screwed.... Why?? Because I couldn't play by the rules..... It is not my responsablility to take care of thier kids of support them in any way, but I have to because it seems that even though my child doesn't speek Spanish we have to have special Spanish books and classes.... The great part is, thier parents are working in our orchards under the table so they don't have to pay for any of it.....
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2006, 11:59:22 pm » |
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Im a white man! now that Im a minority, Im just wondering is it time for poor me yet? befor you get your pantys in a whad I have friends of all breeds. when will i get special treatment? If the white man causes everyones problems why you all here? to bitch about it? just glad to have grown up in the 80s when things were differnt then they are now! I think everyone should be treated the same and government assistance should be a one time thing not forgenerations . not ment to piss anybody off just the way I see it!
a dying breed almost extinct white man. steve!
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2006, 12:43:11 am » |
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Here is the base of all....... "Legal"?? or...... "Illegal"??
Pretty much should be the end of it..... Why do we argue over something SO SIMPLE..... If you do Illegal things, you pay the piper..... People do harmless Illegal things all the time and do prison time.... These guys have a certain amount of time to get thier $h!t together..... If they can't, they need to take themselves back to where they came from.... If they had made a family here then, that is there own falt.... They can take them with them..... IF I have a bunch of kids and happen to be doing Illegal things do you think the govenment is gonna pardon me and let it slide..... I DON'T THINK SO!!! I'll be behind bars.... My children will be screwed.... Why?? Because I couldn't play by the rules..... It is not my responsablility to take care of thier kids of support them in any way, but I have to because it seems that even though my child doesn't speek Spanish we have to have special Spanish books and classes.... The great part is, thier parents are working in our orchards under the table so they don't have to pay for any of it.....
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2006, 01:22:15 am » |
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Racist. Racerester than me!! |
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2006, 01:26:15 am » |
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a dying breed almost extinct white man
Now that's funny right there.... I don't care who ya are.......
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