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« on: June 21, 2006, 10:36:19 pm »

Ok, Calif. is trying to pass a bill AB2448 that mandates only 10% adults and the rest is to be High School students only very soon.

When was the last time you visited a HS industrial class on campus? No, they have been long gone......they don't know what even a Phillips screwdriver is and even their parents don't either!

I could not have started and run my own business if it wasn't for the industrial classes I took in High School, but with todays HS exit test they have to pass to graduate, they don't have or want to take any other classes.

If this bill goes thru, all the pass years and current HS students that get out into the real world of getting a job or career, will be without a safety net like ROP (Regionial Occupational Programs, free job training) gives them and adults.

It is amazing within my own Plastics ROP class that adults learn from the HS students and the HS students learn from the adults too, but that will end soon. My CCROP is nearly 70% adults to HS students....including recently HS grads too! In a class of 30, will then have only 3 adults....and the adults also helps me to watch the HS students from hurting themselves or mischief too!

Anyways, Please E-mail the Calif. Governor and Senators to oppose AB2448:

E-mail
The Calif. Governor Now!
http://www.govmail.ca.gov
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Tell the Calif. Governor
& your Senator to:
Appose and VETO
AB 2448 (Hancock)
THIS BILL WILL STOP ADULTS
(…and just graduated High School students) from TAKING R.O.P.
Job Training CLASSES

E-mail him as many times as you feel is necessary!
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 10:39:28 pm »

Oppose AB 2448 (Hancock)
 
Dear Senator:
 
I implore you with the strongest possible request, that you oppose AB 2448 and any proposed amendments. The California Association of School Administrators (ACSA), the California School Board of Education (CSBE) and the California Association of Regional Occupation Programs and Centers CAROC/P are against the bill because:
 
AB 2448 is about Age Discrimination: Adult taxpayers will be denied access to education by virtue of their age. No other self selected, non-mandatory educational agency is discriminated against in this fashion. The current and recently High School graduated students also will not have any access to job training for them to get a decent job or career. 

AB 2448 is a Punitive Profiler: Communities with large numbers of low-social economic and poverty stricken adults will be denied cost-free, job-market specific training located within their community. Or others that what a career change or to start their own business too!
 
AB 2448 is Written poorly: There are vague passages filled with glittering generalities that would increase bureaucratic inefficiency and raise hidden costs.
 
AB 2448 is Wasteful: If only high school students can attend ROP, then classrooms (filled with expensive, state tax funded, high-tech technology) will go unused, when needy adults could benefit from evening and Saturday job preparation courses. The combining of High School & Adults together allows them to learn from each other too! 

AB 2448 is Deceptive: While claiming to be about supporting Career/Technical education for high school students, it offers no plan for how this is to be accomplished, or how students with impacted schedules can avail themselves of Career/Technical programs when they are trying to pass the High School exit test too!

AB 2448 Destroys Local Control: All governing school boards would have, over night, their decision making superseded by one bill that is so broad in scope it ignores the realities of individual community needs. ROC/P's are "regional" economic solutions for specific regions of California.
 
AB 2448 is Anti Immigrant: Immigration policies will be damaged by removing free, short-term job training programs that are sorely needed by millions. Also, who gets to picks out the 10% of adults that get to attend ROP classes out of the masses?
 
AB 2448 is Irresponsible: Why would the legislature want to move money into new funding streams without any accountability of such drastic changes in existing education code and education structure?
 
Sincerely,
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2006, 09:34:49 pm »

that would suck ....

I took welding in H.S. trough R.O.P. , 8 hrs every Saturday , just because I wanted to learn it , but 3/4 the class were Adults that were hoping to learn enough to get certified and get a better job .
My Ex-wife took medical insurance billing classes through R.O.P. , All adults , no H.S. kids  , a lot of people really benifit from these classes , they can get the training that they might not be able to pay fir out of pocket .
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2006, 02:28:53 am »

Please, spread the word. Wink

I'm not doing this to save my ROP job (if it did go away, I'd probally have more money on hand) as I still have my own business, but this is so wrong.

But since Calif. is #1 state in the USA for Plastics processing businesses, there's only 2 Plastics ROP programs and a couple of colleges teaching the subject matter......plus the Industry has really backed me thru the thin times (when Arnold stole our school budgets...) too wouldn't like the program to go away too!

My thinking is the lady that wrote this Bill AB2448 might had their son or daughter sign up for a ROP class and it was full. They may then had dropped by the class, saw that it was mostly adults in attendance and went looking at the wording for ROP job training..... Huh

Thank you for replying!
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