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brian rogers
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« on: May 24, 2006, 02:45:33 pm » |
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At a local show and swap there was a guy selling kits to convert your bug to an electric. Any one know of a conversion first hand? How well did it work. I'll post the web site later tonight. Gas prices are eating out of house and home.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 05:06:19 pm » |
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That would be perfect if you can plug it in at work like a forklift. Charge it up on the corp's dime.
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brian rogers
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 07:55:36 pm » |
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The link is: http://www.e-volks.comI'm thinking that it may take too many batteries to get what I need for my commute. I've a few steep hills I have to downshift my truck on. I need to do these hills at at least 55mph. Its 25 miles each way. I don't think the company will mind. Isn't there some knid of tax break for alterante fueled cars? |
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 01:59:40 am » |
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I work with a guy who has photo-voltaic type solar panels on the roof of his home, he sells the power during peak time back to the electric company (PG&E here in the SF bay area,CA) He claims to charge his electric car for almost nothing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 08:02:42 am » |
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The hot setup is Lithium rechargeable batteries like in a laptop or cellphone. I saw a guy on TV that had a sports car absolutely stuffed with them, and it had Ferrari like accelleration they said. Too bad those batts are so expensive, but if you could get them surplus and figure out how to charge them safely it would be cool.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 12:31:18 pm » |
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The hot setup is Lithium rechargeable batteries like in a laptop or cellphone... Wasn't that little car on Monster Garage when they did the electric car? Those are the li-po batteries, correct? The RC car industry is starting to head that way as well. One battery is in the buck-fifty range, and you have to have a special charger. Once the price comes down, it'll be the way to go. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 12:45:09 pm » |
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ya, that's what made me think, just look at those capacities, wow! If you ever crashed it could get interesting tho, already they are retraining our city's hazmat rescue guys on hybrid cars due to the potential voltages encountered rescuing someone stuck in one.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 09:36:21 pm » |
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I'm also looking at other types of batteries. Our Siemens light rail cars have Ni/cads that are realy nasty if your exposed to 'em. Air craft batteries are the same. I'm also thinking about looking into the Optima line when time permits. I'm told that golf cart batteries give more for the dollar. This is why GM got out of the electric biz. People loved those cars, even though the cost of batteries was $2k to $3k for the pack. GM pulled the lease and wouldn't renew. Crushed them all as I recall.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2006, 01:36:07 pm » |
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GM pulled the leases and wouldn't renew. Crushed them all as I recall.
aaarrgghhhh! I was hoping someone would get ahold of one of those ultra-wind-slippery bodies, put an internal combustion engine under it and set a new production sedan record at Bonneville |
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2006, 02:55:16 pm » |
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2006, 05:07:21 pm » |
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you really know how to hurt a guy...  |
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2006, 12:50:46 am » |
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you really know how to hurt a guy... I still know where one is at. GM has been trying to get that one over the last year. Did you know a group from GM did a secret mission and set a land speed record with one in stock form except a gear change and some inverter mods? They kept it secrect from GM execs and set it in Texas. Lookup the GM Impact. Should be a yellow car. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2006, 07:25:46 pm » |
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My 66 was electric powered when I bought it. It had to be converted sometime in the early 80's as the last previous inspection sticker had been in 85. I had all of the electric stuff out of it within 3 hours of owning the car so I can't give you a road test report. The only thing I can say is removing a 250lb engine to install 800 lbs of batteries right behind the driver in the passenger compartment with all of four bolts through sheet metal holding them in was idiotic. To top it off they put in fiberglass bucket seats that hinged at the front with no seat belts. I honestly think that had to be the biggest death trap I've ever seen in my life. All to go 50mph and 50 miles on a charge. It probably wasn't any cheaper and when you figure in that 60% of the electricity to run it came from coal it was probably dirtier in the long run as well.
You may also want to look into some ultra caps for power storage. I would use them during times of peak acceleration to limit the amp load on the batteries to improve the battery life.
Mike
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brian rogers
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2006, 10:40:46 pm » |
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Its like anything else in this world. You can do it straight forward or do it halfassed. The install I saw first hand was in a MG TD kit car with a IRS rearend. It was clean, though not up to our standards. HotVWs had featured a Ghia in the late 80s or in the 90s. It can be done.
The polution factor is a CROCK OF $$hit. Yeah if your grid is coal fired your maybe poluting 25% - 30% less than an ill tuned stocker. Electrics have their uses, I'm just loking into it is all.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2006, 12:12:10 pm » |
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I want a tiny reactor the size of a pack of smokes to power my next car... of course Magoo and his dad would figure out how to piggy-back a second reactor for twice the power output and the hp wars would be on  Can you imagine JC Whitney selling high performance fuel rods and replacement high pressure steam valves (bogus markings and certs counterfitted in China  ) for the thing!  I take it all back, bad, BAD idea... |
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2006, 03:34:28 pm » |
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Maybe like this:
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brian rogers
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2006, 08:17:40 pm » |
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Looks like nothing I've ever seen. Motor should be inline for the input shaft of the tranny, where the lower fan is (cooling?), what is the upper cylinder with the belt and cables attached? Don't know what the other components are on either side of the unit. I'm just looking at this time.
As for raceing electrics, some guy has converted a 914 and doing well with it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2006, 09:34:49 pm » |
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2006, 12:56:46 am » |
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Gas prices are eating out of house and home.
If it gets much worse, it might make sense for me to commute on one of these: http://www.hybrid-vehicles.net/ecycle-hybrid-motorcycles.htm(I calculated payback period due to fuel savings based on paying $5500 for the bike, driving it 120 miles/day, 5 days/week, year round comparing it to the car I drive now which gets about 35mpg...came out that it would pay for itself in a little under 3 years...not bad. I don't think fuel prices will stay where they are either...) ...or even one of these diesels: http://www.hdtusa.com/military.htm#bike1 |
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2006, 01:47:19 am » |
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Brian, if you typing about the Ghia.....it was at Blair & Son in Phx., AZ. too many years ago (ya, I use to get around...). It actually had magnetic pistons that the coils would pull and push those pistons up and down.....!
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brian rogers
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2006, 02:36:57 pm » |
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WHOA! Cool! I can see now. How well did it work? What was the range and speed? Not to practical but interesting?
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2006, 04:54:52 pm » |
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After I posted that comment I remember that Jan was telling me that it had multi layer pistons too! What I don't know as this was in the late 80's?
I don't know how well it ran or "what not".
I have a couple more boxes of pictures to go thru (spring cleaning...) and I recall I had more pictures of it. It looks like it was in an early Ghia by the taillight holes.
PM me if you want Jan's shop number but it may have changed.
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