A day without a Mexican?

[silverbugget]

I heard this morning on a Latin radio station that organizers through out the U.S. are encouraging the Mexican popluation  to stay home on May 1st. No work , no school, do not buy anything. They feel they can cripple the economy by doing this for a day. I feel this is going to cause more problems  for them than they think. They are already lining up lawyers to battle any employer that fires an employee for not showing up. They anticipate that by 2100 that the Mexican population will be the majority in the U.S.
Hmmmm.... Please don't ever get me wrong I am not prejuduce against Mexicans at all, my son is half Mexican. There are right ways and wrong ways of getting your point across. 

[Bruce Tweddle]

I guess they saw the movie.

[carapace]

I honestly don't think my boss (or company) would give a rats hindparts if I didn't show up one day.  I just don't get paid, that's all.  That's frickin' stupid... cripple the economy... maybe my personal economy!

[Marty]

I hope my wife does not join this!

[silverbugget]

me too. Engine building could get expensive if she isn't working
 

This image really bothered me.


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[vwfye]

why is it when US citizens move to europe, they are expected to assimilate to the environment they join, but when folks come to the US... they aren't?  if i go to the czech republic and try to speak english in the work place, or demand an english menu, form or legal document, they are either just going to laugh at me or tell me to bugger off.  why?  because it ISN'T the United States. 

[silverbugget]

This website says it all.


http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm

Genicide? Holocaust? Have we not learned anything form history.
Good god, what about our children that half half blood in them. Serbia and Bosnia? Discrimination?
Ignorance is not an excuse.. education, assimilation, laws .. I love going ot Mexico, parts of it are extrememly beautiful and the culture is awesome but if they cannot even pull that part of the world out of debt, poverty and participate in the Globa Economy than what are they to do with America. Why do they think many of Americas Coproration's have moved there... cheap labor, no workmans comp, alot less expensive for production cost, why do they come here? America has gone throught the growing pains and offers rewards for the hard working citizens of the U.S. "Citizens" !!! Like a drivers license, it is a privelage not a right, earn it..
We have fought, " I fought" , for Democracy and Freedom and  alot of American blood has been spilt so that we enjoy it. Earn your freedom and rewards as Americans.

ooo.. I am pissed..

[so67vw]

Edited,...

Let'em

[carapace]

...ooo.. I am pissed...

You don't say...

[vwfye]

yeah, that web site sure pushes for equality of all peoples...     it is NOT my fault that columbus sailed the ocean blue.  it is not my fault that war broke out in the 1800s over land and it is not my fault that slavery was legal in our country's history.  i wasn't born yet!  i can only strive for lawfulness and order now that i am alive.  and that includes promoting the correct and legal means of becoming a resident of this country.  want to become a US citizen?  GREAT!  my neighbors have all become naturalized...  they are very proud US citizens and great people.  do you think they want an 'open' border?  NOT ON YOUR LIFE! 

[Cymon Sez]

If the law passes that Bush is pushing right now we will have 11 million new AMERICANS that dont give a rats A$$ about this country! (again my biggest complaint is that they have no repect for this country) 

[Ovalnut]

On the radio they said if one of us left and went to Canada, you just to get privileges.  You work, you become a citizen, and then you get access to health care, etc.  I can't say I understand what our country does anymore.  No one even talks about the gas prices as much.  I think earlier this year when they went up, hovered, and then dropped was a test.  I can't believe with all the different gas companies that they all end up charging the same for gas??  I'd think the Mobils and Chevrons would be more due to better refinement and the Circle K's and BP's would be less with their inferior gas, but they all are the same.  What can you do?

[sinikl]

if they cannot even pull that part of the world out of debt, poverty and participate in the Globa Economy than what are they to do with America.

dude, i am so not trying to piss anyone off here. seriously. but if you think about the trade imbalance that most such countries have, and look at economists' data (not even [insert epithet of choice for lefty here] economists), you gotta realize that the late industrializers, aka the third world, are NEVER gonna catch us. EVER.  they may never get out of debt, either.

that doesn't mean that if we allow people to enter *legally* and have them work at taxed, paying jobs, they're going to bleed america dry.  when i get gas at the local minimart, there's a line of american bums trying to get enough for some wild irish rose, and a line of latinos waiting to bust their asses 12 hrs a day.  dudes have a work ethic, no matter what else we can say.  *that* at least has to be good for america.

[sinikl]

and that includes promoting the correct and legal means of becoming a resident of this country. want to become a US citizen? GREAT! my neighbors have all become naturalized... they are very proud US citizens and great people. do you think they want an 'open' border? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

dang, who thought i'd agree with fye! yet i do.

[so67vw]

If the law passes that Bush is pushing right now we will have 11 million new AMERICANS that dont give a rats A$$ about this country! (again my biggest complaint is that they have no repect for this country)

You mean well have 11 million legal people instead of illegal.... What is the diff... They at least are accounted for....

[bauerbus]

I don't have a problem if they are here as long as they play by the same rules... Speak english, pay taxes  , social security etc. Bob

[Clint Ormosen]

that doesn't mean that if we allow people to enter *legally* and have them work at taxed, paying jobs, they're going to bleed america dry. when i get gas at the local minimart, there's a line of american bums trying to get enough for some wild irish rose, and a line of latinos waiting to bust their asses 12 hrs a day. dudes have a work ethic, no matter what else we can say. *that* at least has to be good for america.

Ha, were actually in some agreement here!
Except, from experience, most of the *bums* I see asking for change are 60+ yrs old. Not exactlly a great age to ask for some hard labor. But there's gotta something thay can do.

[Cymon Sez]

You mean well have 11 million legal people instead of illegal.... What is the diff... They at least are accounted for....

"THEY" would be called "AMERICANS"......accountability means nothing if "THEY" dont give a $hit about this country. 

[so67vw]

Ha, were actually in some agreement here!
Except, from experience, most of the *bums* I see asking for change are 60+ yrs old. Not exactlly a great age to ask for some hard labor. But there's gotta something thay can do.

Be carefull give'n $$ away... I use to see the Bums downtown Portland with wads of cash in thier pocket from Gov. money one day and asking me for $$ the next.... Quite a few of them choose to live that way... It is freedom to them.... Why have bills and resposability when you can drink all day and pass out in a doorway some place....

You are right about the bums being older white/black males.... Hardly ever see Mexican Bums.....

[so67vw]

"THEY" would be called "AMERICANS"......accountability means nothing if "THEY" dont give a $hit about this country.

Your right about that.... There are Americans that don't give a crap about this country... It's all about what the country can do for them.....

[Dean N]

kind of like the gas situation.. everyone dont buy gas on such a date...

never will work unless you can do it for an extended period of time.. more then 24 hours..

[Mag00]

A day without Mexicans is like a day without Sanchez...

[Raisincane]

This completely sickens me. Everyday I see new reasons for white people to hate themselves. But if I see someone that is proud to be white they are called a racist. All over that page are signs about the white racist. Kinda funny that after 500 years they are just now getting motivated to "Claim" their continent. Once it is the strongest continent on the planet thanks to the USA which none of them helped to build. I can see this turning way ugly before it gets resolved and I guarantee that if it turns violent there are alot of "European Terrorists" with guns that will put a little dent in the population. And to think I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about another civil war where race was the divideing line.

I guess Black people should take back Africa. And all the Mexica followers need to just shoot anyone that is not pure blooded native. So many of them have spanish blood in them they just might be in trouble. Guess that makes them half terrorist. Thank god I have Indian blood in me so they can't claim I am an invader and here illigally if they choose not to boot out the people with spanish blood in them.

[ErikTheRed]

that doesn't mean that if we allow people to enter *legally* and have them work at taxed, paying jobs, they're going to bleed america dry. when i get gas at the local minimart, there's a line of american bums trying to get enough for some wild irish rose, and a line of latinos waiting to bust their asses 12 hrs a day. dudes have a work ethic, no matter what else we can say. *that* at least has to be good for america.

Yeah man, I think we almost totally agree on this one! I have NO problem with Mexicans in this country.....but I do have a problem with illegal ones. Sounds like you do too. And yes, Mexicans are all over the place, and so are homeless folks (you even called em' BUMS!! ) And yes, the homeless are usually looking for a handout, which they dont get from me. Yes the Mexicans are looking for work, and I dont think anyone here, including myself, would ever dispute their work ethic, they are some hard workin' fellas. But, I'd lay odds the homeless guy is at least LEGAL, which makes him a tick higher in my book. The homeless guy might be asking for some "spare" change but the Mexican dude on the corner may have just jumped the border last month and already has a job (not paying taxes), his job probably took a job away from a legal citizen, his 6 kids in school (my tax money), he and his entire family have medical care (more tax money), they all use the same public services we do (more tax money), they drive on our roads (more tax money), they probably get some form of government assistance (more tax money), every government form in English is also printed in Spanish (more tax money), etc etc ect. So by far, the illegal Mexican border-hopper is alot more expensive than the homeless fella. True, the Mexican is buying stuff whereas the bum aint, but it still doesnt justify the illegal part.

[Cymon Sez]

So by far, the illegal Mexican border-hopper is alot more expensive than the homeless fella. True, the Mexican is buying stuff whereas the bum aint, but it still doesnt justify the illegal part.

Not to mention 90% of the money made goes to get the rest of the family here also Illegally.

[Mag00]

Think we got troubles now? fox is a moderate compared to what is coming from our good friends to the south... The red tinged politicos from that part of the world are also exporting their own brand of un american(for lack opf a better word) leanings on our free society and when they gain a foothold , life as we all know it and enjoy it today is in the crapper pal.. Phone and e/mail your elected officials ... It is not too late to stop this insanity perpatrated by both sides... Come On fight for your rights!!! I don't care if you are Black white green or orange just remember what made this country great was people working together to make it great... yeah bad stuff happemed but time marches on and if we let those bastards in DC bambozzle us on this phony assed "it's not Amnesty" crap , well we are !@#$%111 As a country...

[James2]

Not my words, but from another board

"Years ago my good buddy Buster (one of the smartest fellers I know) was holdin' court at the produce stand prognosticatin' and pontificatin' when he made what I thought at the time was some of the dumbest remarks I'd heard....Now mind ya' this was a time when we was in a "cold war" with the USSR and the only place you heard Spanish was in a movie or the tv....

But Buster wasn't worried about no war with the Soviets....."you ain't gotta' worry bout' them....the real problems are gonna' come from the middle east".....Now mind ya' this was a time when about all we knowed bout' the middle east was from cartoons and such showin' them flyin' around on carpets.....But that discussion is gonna' have to wait for another day....

He also said Mexicans was gonna' become the biggest minority group in the whole US of A....said the day would come when Spanish would be heard everywhere....even right here is beautiful Powder Springs, Georgia....We thought Buster was nuts....

But he had a vision the rest of us didn't have....he also had book-learnin'....He explained how WW II had drained our resources to the point we didn't have enough workers, so we looked abroad and welcomed our southern neighbors....In fact our government organized the whole dang thing so we could get lots of migrant workers ("Braceros") here to help us out....WE NEEDED them, embraced them and millions came to help us out.

This lasted more than two-decades until we changed our mind because of the large numbers of migrant workers that was comin' ....but it was too late....they was floodin' through the gates that we had gladly opened.

Mexico now reportedly reaps $12 Billion a year into its economy from their workers from America....Agriculture and other US businesses want these workers.....the momentum is such that Buster now says they're ain't no way no how it can be stopped.....He says we've just gotta' now find a cooperative way with Mexico to work it out so its seen as a compromise and a win-win for us both.....and its gonna' be spelled "OIL."

Buster thinks a deal will be struck and "black gold" will be the common thread....Our need for oil will force us to compromise with the Mexican government and reach a bi-lateral accord....Howesomever, the cultural change underway in America will continue....ain't no stoppin' it....

Viva America and pass the salsa..... "

[kcr]

There are so many things that bother me about illegals.1st off for the record,I believe if you are in America legally,you should have the same rights and freedoms of Americans.The word illegal(used in front of" immigrants" or"aliens")means just that....Illegal.You are in our country illegally!!.
Ok what bothers me the most is schooling.My daughter is in 5th grade,has the highest test scores in the school,in the G.A.T.E. program,on all the principals list,etc.She's a good student.From kindergarten to 4th grade,the school had a white woman principal,The 1st time we went to Back to school night,she adressed the entire crowd in Spanish 1st.Apparantly enough people complained and that never happened again.But what is happening is the whole educational process is slowed by having to either teach in 2 languages or having to teach these kids to speak English.It hurts all the kids.It's just not fair.Revert back to Fyes post about going to Europe.Please Assimilate.
The other main concern of mine is health care.I'm tired of paying taxes for someone to blatantly not practice birth control,and use the emergency room for family health care.See,if you go to the E-room,they have to treat you.Then,we all pay.It's hurt the hospital's so bad.E-rooms shutting down is something that would have never-ever crossed my mind 20 years ago.
I understand certain religions believe in massive pro-creation,but only do it if you can afford it Stop looking for me to pay your rent,buy your food and clothing etc,by means of govt programs that my hard earned(legally)tax money goes to.
One last thing,for the safety of your children,please use a car seat for your youngins.I hate to see a 4 passenger car with 7 or 8 people in it,and a couple kids standing on the back seat,or babies sitting on the laps of other unbelted kids.

[so67vw]

Huge Problems with Workers that work under the table and can because the IRS never knew they were even alive...... Then they send the Money back to thier families in Mexico so they can spend it out of county...... It will never be spent at a buisness in the United States or be taxed by the United States.... At least put it back into our economy....

[axm48ida]

It's nice to know that there are others who feel the same way I do!
If we were to go to south of the border illegally the govt there would insult you, arrest you, jail and maybe deport you if still alive after all that, but not before stripping you of all your assets. Those who come here get assistance to have a crap load of kids, overcrowd our schools, due to their inablility to learn english our govt has forms printed in their native tongue and ####s up are school system even more with special classes because the parents don't force their children or teach their children the importance of learning english, Then I have to pay extremely high health coverage and taxes to support their health costs and several other assistance programs our govt bends over and gives them. But what is the worse is they have the BALLS to exspect equal rights! Their illegals and that means they don't belong here!! They don't give a crap about this country except for bleeding it dry. There's a big problem with groups like this .....they all think the United States owes them....#### them!!!

[Jerry D]

If they ultimately decide on "amnesty" for illegal aliens, my thoughts are, if they are between the ages of 18 and 34 they should have to serve in the military for at least 4 years to learn a trade and the language. This will also help build within them a little respect for this country. 

[cmitchelli]

   The military thing could be quite dangerous too. Think about it.  The wrong people in control of weaponry!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cymon Sez]

This will also help build within them a little respect for this country. 

One could only wish that would happen. 

[youngnstudly]

I can't even believe where this country is going-RIGHT DOWN THE TUBES! It's bad enough that we have to watch our countries leaders taking advantage of us and doing what gets them further along in life, now we have to watch out for mexicans taking over and gaining more rights than the people who created this great country. Mexico wasn't an out of control, disaster area before the Mexicans got ahold of it...They turned it into that mess-And the U.S. is next! I live in the heart of the wine country-51% MEXICAN POPULATION (cheap vineyard workers) and all those Mexicans CAN'T be legal! How do you get citizenship when you can't even comunicate (read, write, etc) using the same language?!? And it's not that legal US citizens are too lazy to do the work-They just want to make a good enough wage to raise a family and get the things in life that bring happiness to them.

 I spend nearly a month in the hospital (7/05-8/05) after being diagnosed with stage 3 cancer (2 days before my 22nd birthday  ) and you wouldn't believe the hell I went through during that time, due to the mexican staff members lack of experience, inability to comunicate (speak english, DAMN IT!), and more worry over when their shift ended than wether or not I got the correct dose of pain killer or care I needed! Not one person in the hospital kitchen could speak english, and diabetics and people with other "special needs" diets (like myself) couldn't get the attention and proper nutrients we needed. This has nothing to do with racism or hate...They simply aren't up to doing the tasks they are assigned! It's a complete joke that we're even considering giving illegals any rights or say-so. Welcome to America, habla espanol???

[JOHNNY SALGADO]

"Buster thinks a deal will be struck and "black gold" will be the common thread....Our need for oil will force us to compromise with the Mexican government and reach a bi-lateral accord....Howesomever, the cultural change underway in America will continue....ain't no stoppin' it...."

We already buy a lot of oil from Mexico, and a conflict with Iran is not out of the question.  If that happens our middle east oil will be compromised.  We're going to depend on them whether we like it or not.  I think based on that, our gov't will likely compromise with Mexico and legalize the ones that are here.  I don't like illegal immigration, but I think we're at the point of no return.