Hotrodjrod
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« on: June 04, 2009, 01:14:41 am » |
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So, my little 1600 is about done. I dont have a distributor for it yet, and I had no idea the 009 Bosch's were so freaking expensive.
Im looking for a cheap alternative, at least for now. the motor doesnt have anything crazy done to it, mostly stock with dual carbs and a cam. But I definitely want something reliable.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Glenn
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 07:13:45 am » |
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« Last Edit: June 04, 2009, 07:15:46 am by Glenn »
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 02:56:38 pm » |
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Off topic: Glenn, do you know what the 010 came off of originally? I can't remeber where or what someone told me. Volvo? BMW? Benz? It wasn't even a VW right? The 009 came off of a generator and that's why the curve isn't perfect for our engines so I hear.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 03:12:52 pm » |
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Off topic: Glenn, do you know what the 010 came off of originally? I can't remeber where or what someone told me. Volvo? BMW? Benz? It wasn't even a VW right? The 009 came off of a generator and that's why the curve isn't perfect for our engines so I hear.
It was my understanding the early buses had the 010 in them? |
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 07:05:09 pm » |
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Good isn't cheap.
Cheap isn't good.
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Glenn
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 07:49:05 pm » |
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Off topic: Glenn, do you know what the 010 came off of originally? I can't remeber where or what someone told me. Volvo? BMW? Benz? It wasn't even a VW right? The 009 came off of a generator and that's why the curve isn't perfect for our engines so I hear.
59-60 Type 2, that's why some have a 211 VW part number on the badge.  |
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bugnut
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 08:34:03 pm » |
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I've never had too many issues with the German 009 I currently have on my 1776... may not be the best distributor available, but it works fine on my dual carbed 1776. I agree the 009 is not ideal for stock carbed engines, but for mild engines in which the idea is not optimal, down to the last decimal point horsepower, etc., the 009 functions good enough, in my experience.
That said, there's plenty of things I'd like to try in the way of ignition set ups, but funds are in short supply.
I wouldn't touch a Chinese 009 with a 10-foot pole.
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Glenn
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 09:46:31 pm » |
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Borrow a 019 or 010 and you'll see what you're missing.
A few years ago a friend was telling me how much he loved his new 1776 and how much faster it was over his 1600. While checking it out I noticed he didn't have his linkage setup correctly and was only getting 3/4 throttle. When i readjusted it correctly he couldn't believe he drove around like that for 6 weeks and didn't know what he was missing.
There's a moral in that story. Enjoy your OO9.
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HotrodVW
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2009, 01:07:33 am » |
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I ran a Bosch 009 on my 1641 for maybe a yr or so. After lots of reading and seeing that the 019 was a better fit, I found one on eBay for $65 shipped. I cleaned it up, went through it top to bottom, painted it etc... I could tell a differenct immediately off the bottom, due to the advance curve coming in sooner. I now run it on my 2007, but am leaning towards an MSD set up, or maybe even a crank trigger set up. I say get yourself an 019, and enjoy.  |
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Hotrodjrod
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2009, 02:14:18 am » |
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So I should look for a 019 instead of a 009 then? My motor will be a very mild 1600 with dual 34 solex's
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HotrodVW
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2009, 02:16:12 am » |
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I think you'll be happier with it. Or you can find a nice 010, and I'll trade you. =)
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Glenn
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2009, 08:51:19 am » |
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Last March I installed a 019 in a friend's 57 that had a stock 1600DP. I told him to take it for a ride and let me know what he thinks. He replid "should I feel a difference?", I told him if he doesn't then why spend the money.
Needless to say he was happy and last month purchased a second 019 for his Bus.
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J Dotson
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2009, 09:09:24 am » |
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I would like to try a 010...Glenn PM me when ya get another one....  |
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Glenn
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2009, 10:27:01 am » |
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I would like to try a 010...Glenn PM me when ya get another one.... It's best to send a email asking to be put on my waiting list. When i get one, I start at the top and work my way down. If I don't hear from someone in 2 days I go tot he next on the list. Or if you find a core... I can rebuild it. |
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Donny B.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2009, 10:30:46 am » |
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Glen I have a couple of 010s. What is a ball park figure for an 010 without points condenser, rotor and cap?
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Mark Thompson
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2009, 11:11:06 am » |
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What exactly is the difference between an 019 and a 010? How different are the advance curves say compared to the 009?
I'm curious as I'm sure others are who are reading this post. Glenn you are the "master" so can you elaborate?
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J Dotson
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2009, 04:45:40 pm » |
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It's best to send a email asking to be put on my waiting list. When i get one, I start at the top and work my way down. If I don't hear from someone in 2 days I go tot he next on the list.
Or if you find a core... I can rebuild it.
Sending you a PM... |
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Hotrodjrod
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2009, 11:13:38 pm » |
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I saw a couple online 019's One was for 50 the other was for 75. Both used. Should i jump on one of them?
After looking at the 009 that was in the motor dave gave me, honestly the only thing messed up with it, is the outer rim, (where the cap slips down on) is bent. Its kinda seezed up too, Is it possible to remove the shaft and sand it down/polish it up so it slides free again? If i can salvage it, at least i can get my motor running.
I appologize for sounding like a cheap ass, but if i could afford great stuff, i would. But at this point, being my first aircooled car, I just want to drive it for now. Performance, and reliability can come later, but even with that being said, if i can find somthing that is worth spending 50-100 bucks on that will really make a difference, Im sure i can scratch up the cash to do so.
Thanks for all the replies btw! Keep em comin!
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Glenn
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2009, 06:39:00 am » |
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Both "look" usable, but remember, they are 50+ years old. Would you buy a 50+ year old carb and expect it to work without any problems?
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Hotrodjrod
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2009, 09:27:29 am » |
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well, how "rebuildable" are they? I dont really know what goes on inside of them. I have no problem taking stuff apart and cleaning it up or replacing things that i can purchase.
Just curious.
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Glenn
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2009, 02:10:21 pm » |
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There more to rebuilding than just talking it apart and putting it back together. Not that it can't be done, but having a distributor machine helps to ensure it's working correctly and meets factory specs.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2009, 10:35:29 am » |
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How do we know which ones are still usable? I just bumped into 2 019, and 1 010 last night helping my buddy load his stuff to get ready for Pomona swapmeet.
I told him to hold those for me and asked what he wanted, he said to make him an offer, he knew what he had.
Whats a reasonable price on a core distributor for you to rebuild Glen?
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