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cmitchelli
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« on: February 16, 2010, 02:31:12 pm » |
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I have the stock long axles on the car now and was wondering the pros and cons of going with the shorter axles. Any input would be great.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 09:14:44 pm » |
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I did the change in my '72 (Canadian bugs were still swing) and it allowed for easier tire & wheel fitting.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 09:42:11 pm » |
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Cool that's one thing I'm looking for, what else??
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 10:46:20 pm » |
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I swapped my '68 long axles for some SAW short axles ('66-length) in order to get more rubber under the fenders. Now I can (just) fit M&H 215/65's for the track:  |
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 09:55:01 am » |
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Neil, you have one of my favorite cars on this forum, love those wheels.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 05:17:59 pm » |
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OK what should I look out for if I want to put a set of EMPI 5 spokes on my car in regards to fitment and clearances with the long axles??
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 02:15:52 pm » |
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Neil, you have one of my favorite cars on this forum, love those wheels.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 01:20:10 am » |
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OK what should I look out for if I want to put a set of EMPI 5 spokes on my car in regards to fitment and clearances with the long axles??
I installed early axles on my '67, and have before and after pics if you want them. Basically, you'll narrow up each side about an inch. I added CB's wide 5 disc brakes, which pushed me back out about an inch per side. I run 5 spokes now with 205/70's, and will be running my 6" centerlines with M&H 215/65's here soon. Eric |
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 10:25:05 am » |
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Neil,
Looks good. How wide are those rear rims?
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 09:09:59 pm » |
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Thanks Eric, 'bout time someone chimed with real info!!! What was necessary to do the conversion parts wise??
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 10:28:53 pm » |
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Neil,
Looks good. How wide are those rear rims?
5.5" 1968 EMPI rims |
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 01:47:14 am » |
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Thanks Eric, 'bout time someone chimed with real info!!! What was necessary to do the conversion parts wise??
I believe the difference lies in the end castings, but I haven't measure the tubes to double check. I bought my axle tubes and end end castings as one unit and also the axles. You will obviously need the short axles as well. I recommend getting the end castings and tubes just to be safe. It's a straight across swap. Here are some before and after pics, using a 195/65 at the time. Eric Before:  After:  Here's a pic with 205/70's:  Keep in mind, the brakes I run added a 1" track width each side, so basically I'm back to about a stock '67 track width.  |
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 10:13:53 pm » |
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Gents,
Follow up question(s) to this post, I have a '67 sedan with the stock "long axle" transaxle and 165 tires, and want to install shorter axles and type 3 drums so that I can run 205's under the fenders:
1) Can the axle assemblies be swapped out without removing the engine/transaxle from the vehicle?
2) Does anyone know where/when this was written about? I seem to recall reading about this in HVW's or some other publication in the not-too-distant past.
Thank you,
Eric
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 12:36:03 am » |
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I got the shorter axles on my 67 and now I run 6in centerlines and DOT 215x65s and fit good.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 01:23:47 am » |
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If you have ever pulled the axles out of you trans before you know it can be a PITA. I wouldnt want to do that and the tubes with the trans in the car. Thats just my opinion though, and if you have a super diff double snap rings make it worse. I would just pull it all out to make things much easier. Just my 2 cents
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2010, 10:22:14 am » |
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The difference is in the end castings. You could press your end castings off get the short castings and cut your tubes down. It can be done I'm the car, but it will probably take just as long as droping the engine and trans. And alot more cussing too!
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2010, 12:56:10 pm » |
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Esky/Fifty-Five,
Okay, thanks, that's the info I was looking for. Sounds like too much trouble, recently got the bug all back together, the last thing I want to do right now is start pulling it apart again! I'll live with the 165's for now...
Eric
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2010, 09:08:39 pm » |
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Oct 06 Hot VW's page 52
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2010, 10:56:52 pm » |
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Thank you Dave.
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