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« on: July 07, 2011, 12:25:55 pm »



A crazy 356/VW/custom bastard. Check out the 4, separate carbs, cylinder heads and tin. It looks like some early customized version of a 4 cam. Also check out the oil lines from the case to the bottom of the rear cylinder heads.

We are so spoiled now with the aftermarket, it's a reminder of the crazy s&%t people did back then to get modest increases in HP (by today's standards). I love the creativity.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 02:23:45 pm »

Note the larger generator pulley - looks almost like a 1:1 ratio with the crankshaft.  I would think this engine would overheat with the slowing down of the cooling fan.

There is clearly more hidden in this engine than the first glance.  Is that a tachometer drive cable on the crankshaft pulley?
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 04:10:54 pm »

Look at that fan shroud too. Looks like a doubled up 36hp style.
And it has flat spot welded in the top at an angle to clear the decklid it looks like. Probably a bigger fan inside. maybe?

Doesn't look like a 4 cam, but rather maybe a hemi head of some sort with different valve angles. The plugs are on the sides of the head. Weird...
Very intersting motor with a real oldschool look to it.
I'll bet it screams too....
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 06:45:15 pm »

Yeah, I'd love to know more about it too...
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 08:07:22 am »

Update

Apparently, this is the engine from one of Petermax Müller's custom hotrods.

From a thread on the Samba:

"Petermax Müller was born near Berlin and start his buisness at the Brennabor car factory in Brandenburg. In the 1930s, he sold cars of the Auto-Union. He was also a famous international racing driver. At the end of war, he left Berlin and started his new life in Velpke near Wolfsburg. He was in a good contact to Volkswagen to get the parts. The body of the racing-cars were made by a small bodywork comany im Wolfsburg named Schwon. The Petermax / Petromax (VARTA)-racers were the best cars in its class at the late 1940s. One of the drivers was his friend from good old times Fritz Huschke von Hanstein - he is the guy who growed up Porsche from a small manufatory to lhe world legendary Sportsmark.

In the 1950s, Petermax opend a dealership for Volkswagen and Porsche in Hannover, well known in Hannover area.

In 2002, Petermax died with an age of 90 years. His private car collection which was in display of the Volkswagen Automuseum was sold and I had the luck to buy his Hebmüller Convertible. His VW- and Porscheshops still exist, but they belongs to a consortium of several VW-shops in and ouz Hannover."

That thread can be found here:  http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256269

I gained exposure to his cars in person in June 2010 when I visited the Prototype Museum in Hannover



(Photos are of Otto Mathe's cars).

A GREAT museum! More photos of my visit can be seen in the Ramblings Section (or by clicking here: http://www.cal-look.com/prototype-museum-hamburg-germany/)

I had forgotten that Ultra VW Magazine did a full feature of this car in their September 2007 issue. An internal shot of the heads:



Check out how long the rocker arms are!  Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 08:19:04 am »

Here is an overall photo of the car:



According to the Ultra VW article, the wheels are 16 inch, dated 1949, and heavily drilled.

The body is aluminum, hand beaten over wood bucks, and riveted together.

The Ultra VW article states that Müller is credited with building the first VW-based racing special after WWII, beginning its competition life in 1947. He was crowned German Sports Car Champion in 1948 and 1949.

More photos from the Samba link referenced above:





Think of the ingenuity involved in building this car immediately after the war with few resources. A guy on the 356 Registry claims the following:

"Petermax Muller and Baron Huschke found a retired engineer named Vogelsang who was paid with food to build the heads with inclined overhead valves. I guess in post-war Germany cash wasn't king, food was!"

We are spoiled now with access to ready, off-the-shelf hotrod parts for our VWs.

Long live the tinkerers!

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 08:56:23 pm »

Very cool!
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