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67VDUBYA
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« on: October 09, 2006, 10:04:13 pm » |
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i have a set of headers and a muffler that arent ceramic coated they started rusting and i cleaned em up but they'll only rust again... where can i send em to get em coated and will they sand blast them or do i need to send em clean? also how much does it usually cost. it's a custom header so its worth it to me to get them coated over buying another header. thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 10:16:42 pm » |
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I sent one of mine off to Nitro Plate last year and I'm going to send another set off real soon. Great price and fast turnaround ( Like 10 days from Texas to Tenn.). Plus they sandblast inside and I'm not talking half a$$ like some placed I've seen. www.nitroplate.com Nitro-Plate Hendersonville, TN 37075 |
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2006, 12:27:10 am » |
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2006, 08:02:43 am » |
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2006, 09:31:25 am » |
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2006, 10:41:06 am » |
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The coating doesn't make miracles..
Every set of headers I have ever had done will start to rust given enough time.. EGT also plays a key role in how long it takes to happen..
This is why I don't offer my systems coated, everyone expects it to last forever and it simply doesn't.. I tried all of them, Jet Hot included and they still rust if the car gets driven..
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2006, 02:55:46 pm » |
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... everyone expects it to last forever and it simply doesn't... They may not last forever, but in my opinion and experiences, they last enough longer and look enough better that it is worth the extra cost to me!  |
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Zach Gomulka
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2006, 03:13:33 pm » |
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Yep- better then BBQ paint!
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2006, 03:23:03 pm » |
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They may not last forever, but in my opinion and experiences, they last enough longer and look enough better that it is worth the extra cost to me! For racing applications, there is a SIGNIFICANT reduction in heat and cool down time. |
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demian
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2006, 03:26:26 pm » |
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I don't think anyone was implying that coatings do make miracles...everything corrodes and breaks down over time, especially in poor enviornments and through a lot of heating and cooling cycles. However I think ceramic coating affords the best protection currently available as far as exhaust systems are concerned, of course it won't last forever, but like Zach said it will last longer and look better than BBQ paint  |
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67VDUBYA
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2006, 04:12:34 pm » |
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i have one header thats a lil rusty but it's nice and clean when you take your header off the coating deffinatly helps last a little longer... and i'm located in delaware.. i'm sure there is someplace close to here but sometimes i'd rather send it out to cali if its going to a vw based bussiness. i believe kymco does it i dunno if they sand blast tho.. thanks for the replies tho
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 05:08:53 pm » |
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I have 2 exhaust systems that need ceramic coating. I wanna get em done so I can sell them.  |
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2006, 05:13:03 pm » |
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I've had Car Craft do my stuff. Riverside, Ca.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2006, 08:56:14 pm » |
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I got a header that needs recoating. wonder if thats possible  |
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 12:03:08 am » |
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Recoating is not a problem I have had HPC strip and recoat a header that was coated with cheapo coating. Word of warning not all ceramic coatings are created equal. My header was coated black by HPC and looks like the day I received it from them, My A-1 muffler was coated by ? and is starting to show some age I need to send it to HPC to recoat it, basicly you get what you pay for...Joe
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Zach Gomulka
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 02:49:41 am » |
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Yeah, whoever does the coating for A-1 sucks- Love the exhausts though!
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 11:06:26 am » |
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ok i got another question.... my muffler is stainless but the tubing isnt so will they be able to just coat the tubing without touching the muffler? isnt there an a-1 muffler like this?
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2006, 03:08:31 pm » |
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Hey there,
I worked for a ceramic coating, and powder coating shop until a few months ago... the only advice I can give you is to research what steps the shop includes with their coating before you send your stuff to them... HPC, Jet-hot, ceramic, cerakote, etc... it is all virtually the same stuff, just different brands... It is just like a paint job, lots of shops can paint, but it is about the prep and process that they do... a good shop should completely blast and clean in and out, there should be a thermal barrier of some kind done in and out, and then the ceramic coating should be the last step... With baking done in between each step... When we did coating at my shop, everything was blasted and prepped.. then baked at 500 degrees to get out any impurities in the metal... then insulkoted with a thermal barrier in and out and baked again at 500 degrees for an hour.. then finally after a cool off time, it was ceramic coated in which ever color and baked a 3rd time... then, if it was done in a chromex (polished) finish, it was tumbled and polished.. so as you can see, there is a lot of process to it but that is what you need to get a good job done... there should definitely be a thermal coating, or insulkote that goes inside first... that way, both the inside and outside are protected from not only heat, but rust and corrosion as well... good luck in your hunt...
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67VDUBYA
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 10:56:07 pm » |
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cool! 66 ghia, thanks for tho whole run down that does help since i had no clue how exactly it works until now. i got all the answers i was looking for now =)
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