DONZILLA
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« on: July 23, 2010, 01:34:05 am » |
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Hello,Im going to install a TMI carpet kit in my 66 bug,,,and I need some advice,,,Glue, what sort of glue works best?,,brand?,,,also has anyone had any luck with that sound dampening material that Iv see on hot rod shows and the net?
Thank you for your time and advice,Don
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 02:10:53 am » |
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I would go to an lows or home depot and get a gallon of 3m contact cement and a doo doo paint gun and go to town !!
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superdrag
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 06:07:49 am » |
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3M super adhesive in a spray can from Autozone. Awesome suff.
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youngnstudly
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 03:42:56 pm » |
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I also use the 3m super adhesive for most of the carpeting in my car, but if I stitch a vinyl binding onto the carpet then I use weatherstrip adhesive on the perimeter (behind the binding) since contact cement and 3m adhesive never seem to hold very long. You shouldn't need very much (of any type) glue on the carpet to hold it...you might have to remove it later!. Ask me how I know  . Don't forget to spray both surfaces. Hopefully your TMI kit will fit better than most that I have installed. As for the sound deadening materials, there are many brands to choose from. To be honest, I shop by price mainly since most of the companies sell such a similar product and that stuff isn't cheap (to say the least!). Here is a selection from summit. You can probably find some test comparisons on the internet (Google search?) to see which brand is really the best. Good luck and have fun. http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=sound%20deadener&dds=1Andy |
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 12:40:29 pm » |
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3M Spray Adheasive, Gorilla Snot, etc works great for most parts of the car, but here in the Vegas heat the ambient temps are 110 some days in the summer and the interior temps get hotter just sitting parked. The hot interior temps softens the glue, then the engine heat starts working on it once we start driving. As a result, I've had poor success with anything on the firewall. I'm thinking about using my hot melt glue gun next to get that carpet to stay up.
Scott Faivre
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 12:45:57 pm » |
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I have had poor success with hot glue guns too. The glue gets hot and "softens up" as it sees warmer temps.
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Squirmn German
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 06:09:07 pm » |
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3m...nothing else.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 11:06:50 pm » |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah what Gene said!
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QuickKafer
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 12:25:21 am » |
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Like I said, the 3M stuff didn't hold up here. It lasted about a month and then fell off. Even doing the spray both sides, wait for it to tack up and then apply the carpet to the firewall technique.  Scott Faivre |
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Squirmn German
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2010, 08:33:47 am » |
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Hey Scott, it gets damn hot here too, with a ton of humidity to boot. My dads racecar and my old racecar used to set in a trailer and it would get to 120 degrees in there. I think you may have got a bad can or something?
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Kafer_Mike
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 08:42:48 pm » |
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I've always used good ol' 3M contact cement and never had an issue. Make sure to put it on the back of the carpet and the mounting surface, and let both "dry to tacky" before setting. Don't buy the low odor version. It doesn't hold as well...
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QuickKafer
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2010, 10:29:02 pm » |
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I've always used good ol' 3M contact cement and never had an issue. Make sure to put it on the back of the carpet and the mounting surface, and let both "dry to tacky" before setting. Don't buy the low odor version. It doesn't hold as well...
Like I said, the 3M stuff didn't hold up here. It lasted about a month and then fell off. Even doing the spray both sides, wait for it to tack up and then apply the carpet to the firewall technique. Scott Faivre Did that... Didn't hold up... Scott Faivre |
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Squirmn German
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2010, 11:04:57 pm » |
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throw your carpet in the trash, LOL
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QuickKafer
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 01:33:21 pm » |
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throw your carpet in the trash, LOL
There you go! Paint weighs less!  Scott Faivre |
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Squirmn German
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 04:07:44 pm » |
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exactly what i was thinkin ;-)
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Kafer_Mike
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2010, 07:01:07 pm » |
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Did that... Didn't hold up... Scott Faivre I'm talking the 3M 30-NF brush-on (though you can spray it); not rattle can...  |
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youngnstudly
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2010, 05:20:52 pm » |
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You can apply more than one coat of the 3M spray adhesive if you want a really secure hold. Also, there are more than one kind of 3M Spray adhesive and I think I was getting the stuff in a red can. The difference for me was "setup time" when I was doing my upholstery. I noticed that one can took forever to become tacky and I was trying to glue my polyfoam and door panel vinyl together so I could stitch it together. The red can takes as little as 15 seconds to tack up depending on application procedure and # of coats. It's called "SUPER" adhesive as well. Regular contact cement works as well though on carpet...just messy and time consuming. I use 3M weatherstrip adhesive no matter what on the ends and around corners (of the binding) since I can later remove it easily, but it won't come "unstuck" on it's own. I have black carpet and the temp here reaches 110 on a bad day. No problems yet after 10+ years.
Andy
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