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« on: January 14, 2011, 11:48:18 am » |
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I am using a 48 dcoe attached to a carcraft manifold on a draw thru 2387. It's been about 40 degrees here in Laramie and I am having a really hard time getting her to run. The motor fires but then dies shortly after. My friend told me that he has used Carcraft manifolds that have a bung on each side for oil to flow through to warm up the manifold. My manifold does not have these bungs and was curious whether anybody else has had the same problem? what simple modification can be made? Please don't tell me to throw on a holley Thanks, Dennis
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2011, 12:12:56 pm » |
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It would take forever to get the oil to warm up enuff to make a difference ---- call the guys up at Carcraft and ask them -- they are good people -- Ron or Ed -- 951-781-4480 -- --and then call AJ and get one of his 500 CFM 2 barrel Holleys when you are tried of screwing with the sidedraft LOL
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2011, 04:58:47 pm » |
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I have a holley 650 with vacuum secondaries sitting on the bench, but since I did a trans raise (and the turbo sits above the trans), I would have to redo my firewall as the holley is too tall for my application. I really want to try to get the sidedraft setup working, for now, without modifying my firewall (as I will hopefully be seeing an efi setup in the near future). I am also having doubts about the oil helping out realistically, as I have a minimum of 10 qts of oil onboard. Thank you for your input, Dennis
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2011, 05:13:11 pm » |
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Perhaps try a heating pad/blanket like they use on dry sump tanks. or In the UK magazines, when its cold, I have seen a heating element that wraps around the manifold, and it looks like a chord type thing. Here in Australia there are not many places where it gets that cold though. I have never even been in snow.
Another option is to do what VW did on some models with a flexible heater pipe(2 1/4"?) taking advantage of the rising exh heat.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2011, 08:11:14 pm » |
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I think the blanket option is probably most suitable, as one can heat the manifold separately from the engine. The question I have is whether a heating blanket would be destroyed sitting very close to the turbo.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 10:30:07 pm » |
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My buddy had problem starting his 1835 turbo with 40 dcoe after sitting a while. Ended up having a stuck accelerator pump piston and sticking accel. pump valve ball. check carb out internally, make sure idle jets, accel. pump jets and needle and seat are clean and not restricted. Check float height and make sure float is not sticking or binding.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 09:04:44 am » |
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Perhaps try a heating pad/blanket like they use on dry sump tanks. or In the UK magazines, when its cold, I have seen a heating element that wraps around the manifold, and it looks like a chord type thing. Here in Australia there are not many places where it gets that cold though. I have never even been in snow.
Another option is to do what VW did on some models with a flexible heater pipe(2 1/4"?) taking advantage of the rising exh heat.
Sure Dave rub it in ,hahhahahaha Mike
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 06:08:16 pm » |
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Did you pump the throttle before cranking? That should help start the cold engine, and keep it running for the first couple minutes. Maybe the squirter isn't working 100%? The manifold heater idea is only for keeping the icing to a minimum. Icing occurs only when the engine is running, and tends to block the idle jet. Icing happens usually when humidity is high AND the air temp is low.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 03:36:15 pm » |
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I did pump pump the carb a few times before firing. It fires up and then just dies once the rpms get higher. I have always had the turbo motor running in the summer and not winter, so this is a new experience for me. Checked out the carb. and it seems fine. It's not going to get warm here anytime soon, so I think I will just wait a few months :-( thanks for the input guys
Dennis
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 08:19:54 pm » |
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Grip heaters from a motorcycle........cost ya about $20. They're a sticky backed panel with a heated strip. Runs off of a switch, Hi/Lo/Off. Turn it on when you need it, off when you don't. Take two wires to hook it up. I'm so smart. 
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